of texas and he said yesterday, no matter who you are or what office you're running for, you should be as transparent as you can be. do you disagree with governor perry? >> well, norah, i heard the clip you played just before i came on. his words were within reason. i think releasing a few years or two years plus the one coming up is reasonable given the past practice. >> i mean, there is this. that is, the governor who can is simply answer all the critics of those who say he has something to hide. then move on to the economy. the issue he wants to talk about. >> well, charlie, look, the fact is when you have the tax returns that are released, a lot of information comes out understandable, but there's no credible claim that mitt romney's done anything wrong. >> why not let him prove that and show that he, like other candidates, is prepared to show you exactly the kind of tax rate he had been paying and why. and that, in fact, he's proud of the success that he has had as an earner, as a business executive and as someone who has achieved american success. >> well, i don't think there'